[Cpl Ledanek]

krise madsen, on Feb 9 2010, 08:53 PM, said:

GHOST RECON: UTINIII!

[Psychomorph]

Ghost Recon: The Dark Project

[Whisper_44]

teaser

[Witzbold]

[will wabbit hunter]

how is that ghost recon at least graw didn't have the guys looking like jawas or nazguls.

Edited by will wabbit hunter, 09 February 2010 - 08:02 PM.

[Cpl Ledanek]

Does it have lean?

[WhiteKnight77]

I thought it was GR meets Star Trek and expected to see Capt. Kirk and Mr. Spock materialize from the transporter from the Enterprise.

[MONOLITH]

I'm out.

[Flogger23m]

Grendel, on Feb 9 2010, 01:51 PM, said:

The GRAW games were a lot of fun, and Ghost Recon has always had a 'future warrior' design element, one way or another.

I agree, assuming you are talking about the PC version. Not exactly run and gun, because if you did, you would be cut down in seconds.

It had a decent level of tactics and realism, so if there is a PC version like this, I would be happy.

But since GRIN closed, I am thinking it will be like the console versions of GRAW. In addition to that, it will be a mere port.


So my expectations are really low. I've played HAWX, and they've made a dumbed down Ace Combat. Reading the new Splinter Cell game, it was really dumbed down. These two titles practically play the game for you.

I have a feeling this will follow Ubisoft's trend of Tom Clancy games being extremely dumbed down to the point where the game plays itself.


If I am wrong, I will be really happy though.

[Muad'Dib]

WhiteKnight77, on Feb 9 2010, 08:14 PM, said:

I thought it was GR meets Star Trek and expected to see Capt. Kirk and Mr. Spock materialize from the transporter from the Enterprise.

Except that would be fun.

[V2_Bloodline]

Flogger23m, on Feb 10 2010, 02:28 AM, said:

I have a feeling this will follow Ubisoft's trend of Tom Clancy games being extremely dumbed down to the point where the game plays itself.

Popcorn anyone?

[Cpl Ledanek]

it's too early to judge really, just having fun with how they presented it.

like I said before, at least the RSE is gainfully employed.

[Flogger23m]

V2_Bloodline, on Feb 9 2010, 06:38 PM, said:

Popcorn anyone?

I'd suggest grabbing a copy of HAWX - there are rings that tell you where to fly to avoid enemy missiles or to get a lock on the enemy.

The game is playing itself.

I've read in a recent article that in SC: Conviction, there is a similar mechanic. You choose what you want to do, then you character does the actions for the player. The example in the article was that you press a button, and then your character automatically shoots the enemies.

I am sure this GR game will have similar features.

If that is not called dumbed down, then I am not sure what would be.


I'd recommend playing Rainbow 6 Raven Shield and then Vegas. You tell me which is stripped down. You'll notice that all the TC games have been doing this.

Edited by Flogger23m, 09 February 2010 - 09:20 PM.

[Grendel]

The console version of GRAW actually provided a fun and oddly realistic co-op mode. You had full analogue body control (as well as multiple stances) and a magazine system. GRAW 2 was a bit more 'arcade', as it were -- in the end, still a fun co-op game. Overall, I enjoyed them a lot more than the PC game, though I enjoyed both. The PC game is much more fun with the third-person camera mod, if you ask me.

Honestly, the problems with the games aren't that they have sci-fi elements (because Ghost Recon always had prototypical guns like the OICW and so forth), but rather, it's that it suffers from basic design problems. For example: the 40mm grenades do not have arming ranges, and detonate upon impact, like rockets. This makes firing grenades an 'unfair' hazard when playing co-op, because you never know if you've cleared a corner or wall, because of where the projectiles spawn.

Other than the silly design problems, I really could care less that it's military sci-fi. So long as it's fun to play with my friends, I'll give it a shot. I have no brand loyalty, when it comes to the hollow 'Clancy' name. A game is a game.

[BOTA:49]

Grendel, on Feb 9 2010, 09:31 PM, said:

The console version of GRAW actually provided a fun and oddly realistic co-op mode. You had full analogue body control (as well as multiple stances) and a magazine system. GRAW 2 was a bit more 'arcade', as it were -- in the end, still a fun co-op game. Overall, I enjoyed them a lot more than the PC game, though I enjoyed both. The PC game is much more fun with the third-person camera mod, if you ask me.

So true. GRAW coop on the 360 is so much better than it was on the PC. The single player was horrible, but coop was absolutely fantastic. I have to disagree about the third person mod for the PC version though, that was pretty bleh.

Grendel, on Feb 9 2010, 09:31 PM, said:

Honestly, the problems with the games aren't that they have sci-fi elements (because Ghost Recon always had prototypical guns like the OICW and so forth), but rather, it's that it suffers from basic design problems. For example: the 40mm grenades do not have arming ranges, and detonate upon impact, like rockets. This makes firing grenades an 'unfair' hazard when playing co-op, because you never know if you've cleared a corner or wall, because of where the projectiles spawn.

Yeah, but using the prototype for a gun that's actually being made is a bit more realistic than those invisibility cloaks from the teaser. As for the grenades, correct me if I'm wrong but I could have sworn the PC version of GRAW (or at least GRAW 2) had minimum ranges for the launchers. Unfortunately most games don't have that, though it is a nice addition (even better when you actually have to use sights to launch the grenade accurately as well).

Grendel, on Feb 9 2010, 09:31 PM, said:

Other than the silly design problems, I really could care less that it's military sci-fi. So long as it's fun to play with my friends, I'll give it a shot. I have no brand loyalty, when it comes to the hollow 'Clancy' name. A game is a game.

This pretty much sums it up. I'm to the point where I just ignore the title now and see how the game is. I was initially in the anti-console GRAW crowd until I gave the game a shot, and I was surprised how good it was. I didn't think HAWX was too bad, and Splinter Cell.....well, ok Double Agent sucked, but you get the idea.

[Psychomorph]

Hmm, cloaking quilt. This is like

[will wabbit hunter]

from what i understand of splinter cell conviction you can still shoot people yourself if you chose to do so.

[bangurdead]

I've got a better match than jawa's and Ring Wraiths...

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