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Started by Psychomorph, Oct 29 2011 07:53 PM

#81 DetCord

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 12:55 PM

View PostNemesis, on 28 September 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:

Looks like EXTRAS will be shipped with the DVD, BR & 3D BR versions !!

http://www.prometheu...ie.com/news/346

...but if I buy the 3D version & dont have a 3D TV does it still allow me to watch it normally & access the new stuff?!

The version I purchased on Vudu had three scenes that were cut. I probably should've waited for the blu-ray version though. Also, concerning your last statement, I didn't see anything special where it concerned the cinematography. Typical Hollywood, IMHO.

FYI - If ya want mate, I'll record the three extra cut scenes and post them via YT in private status so you can watch'em.

Edited by DetCord, 28 September 2012 - 09:03 PM.

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 02:16 PM

..appreciate that Det...I`ll hold off for the mo & analyse 'em all on the BR.
Did you get the 720P digital version...same as on iTunes?!
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Posted 29 September 2012 - 05:49 PM

View PostNemesis, on 29 September 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

..appreciate that Det...I`ll hold off for the mo & analyse 'em all on the BR.
Did you get the 720P digital version...same as on iTunes?!

Nah, the version I have is in HDX or 1080p.

Well, YT flagged and blocked them as soon as they finished processing. I suppose I could zip and email them to ya, or I could attempt to upload them somewhere.
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Posted 29 September 2012 - 06:59 PM

View PostDetCord, on 29 September 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

Well, YT flagged and blocked them as soon as they finished processing. I suppose I could zip and email them to ya, or I could attempt to upload them somewhere.
Thanks for the attempt..but dont worry I can wait :-)
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Posted 01 October 2012 - 04:52 PM

I washed some of the blue out of this shot & tweaked the mid-tone lighting levels...makes for a much better image IMHO. Its my desktop image for now.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 10:02 PM

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 01:25 AM

BTW. It's a damn shame, that there is Star Trek type of Alien sitting in this amazing, weird looking "thing" which feed our imagination since 1979.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 10:25 AM



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Posted 22 October 2012 - 03:46 AM

Brilliant and spot on :lol:
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:05 AM

Yep, spot on video V2. Like I said previously, a ######-load of plot-holes and inconsistencies throughout...

What I don't understand, is why if the screenplay was complete did they bring in that hack Lindelof?
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 11:29 AM

View PostDetCord, on 22 October 2012 - 10:05 AM, said:

What I don't understand, is why if the screenplay was complete did they bring in that hack Lindelof?

Its mentioned on the 3D BR extras....because Spaiht wasnt a big enough name *& because Spaiht wanted to keep many of the Alien elements in the script. Scott & Lindelof wanted to move away from the Alien franchise & focus on the Engineers totally separately, which is why the whole storyline is the mismatch of 2 scripts & why there's so many inconsistencies created. Personally I would have preferred Spaihtrs original script to what was finally created. Spaiht was humbled to hyave Lindelof screw up his work, although he doesn't see it that way.

Ive considered ripping the BR to my PC & inserting the deleted scenes to make my own edit of the film & see if it ran better..but there's still plot holes all over the fricking place!!
"Paradise (the sequel)" I have a poor assumption is possibly going to attampt answer some of those issues......but TBH - I dont hold out much hope & I certainly WONT be going to the cinema to see it.
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 08:16 PM

I'm holding off for my BR copy...to broke... need a sugar-mommy

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 06:54 AM

Finally watched this movie over the weekend. I will say I've never seen any of the Alien movies since I was too young to watch them when they first came out and I just haven't taken the time to watch them now.

I got the plot and story for the most part but I was confused about the engineer at the beginning who drinks some goo and then falls into river. Is this basically depicting how man was created? I guess as his cells break down it look like new cells were being created and I couldn't figure out if they were trying to say that is how life was started here on earth.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 01:02 AM

dporter....I had the same questions...I just don't know...the more I thought about this movie, the more I thought....I just wasted my freaking money seeing this in the theatres....
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:40 AM

View Postjwp1223, on 30 October 2012 - 01:02 AM, said:

dporter....I had the same questions...I just don't know...the more I thought about this movie, the more I thought....I just wasted my freaking money seeing this in the theatres....

You're not the only one.

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God dammit. How can a 2012 movie still feature this old imbecile cliché of scared people trying to be cute to unknown terrifying species? In all the scenes of Fifield and Millburn inside the Alien spaceship, we see them scared of everything: especially the decapitated architect and super-especially when Janek mentions that a probe is picking-up life forms. But no worries! The life forms are just two giant alien-vagina-cobras straight out of your nightmares. This is why the ###### of this story, Millburn, goes against his survival instinct and fear of the unknown to try to pet the alien abominations. ‘’It’s okay baby. It’s okay’’ He says. Great use of a rapist pick-up line to break the ice with an alien species – no way this will backfire.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 10:10 AM

View Postjwp1223, on 30 October 2012 - 01:02 AM, said:

dporter....I had the same questions...I just don't know...the more I thought about this movie, the more I thought....I just wasted my freaking money seeing this in the theatres....

Well thankfully I waited until it was Amazon instant movie and I had a $2 movie credit. So $1.99 to watch it I don't feel too bad. I still thought it was pretty interesting.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:22 AM

Some of my issues...

Where did all of the random extra crew members (PMC's) come from after Weyland was awoken from cryo?

A crew of 17 people accept to go on the most dangerous mission of their lives and are only briefed on their mission right before landing on moon LV-223 instead of before signing their contracts 2 years prior on Earth. Posted Image

The movie proper begins with the discovery of a glyph that appears in the art of many human civilizations separated by vast distances in time and space. Apparently the configuration of five stars, depicted at the resolution of cave paintings, is sufficient to uniquely identify one area of space 35 light years away. Posted Image

The black goo! You would have to think very untraditionally to expose someone to an unknown agent without isolating them. You would have to think very untraditionally to do this to someone who is potentially infecting the ship, crew and air you yourself will have to breathe when you come out of stasis. And why would a species create such a bio-weapon that its potential outcomes can't even be modeled or predicted? That's a pretty stupid thing for such a advanced species to do.

The Shaggy and Scooby of the film - a biologist and a geologist - freak out at the sight of dead alien bodies, despite having been willing to truck 35 light years on a perilous exploratory mission, and hasten to head back to the ship in a panic. They get lost, despite the fact that the geologist is the one with mapping expertise. This fear then evaporates as quickly as it appeared, as the biologist decides he should recklessly cozy up to a terrifying alien serpent creature. To nobody’s surprise, it quickly kills the biologist, while his geologist colleague is dissolved in black goop, only to later reappear as a zombie in a completely pointless fight scene. This is a pattern. In almost every scene, members of this handpicked group of top scientists for a trillion-dollar mission routinely make the kind of wildly irrational blunders that we strain to accept when it’s half-drunk teenagers in slasher pics. Nobody, at any time, acts remotely like a scientist. Posted Image

At one point, Space Captain Stringer Bell abruptly intuits that they’ve landed at a WMD manufacturing plant wisely situated far from the Engineers’ home world, though it’s not remotely clear that his explanation is anything more than a wild guess. Maybe it’s just what he “chooses to believe”? This raises the additional question: Why did the aliens leave us with an invitation to their biological weapons facility?

The sophisticated alien computer has a sort of flute-like control mechanism, apparently used exclusively to turn the system on, at which point it’s operated by buttons. Which is like having a remote control for your TV, except for the power button, which takes the form of a flute. Why don’t they just have an on button? Or an entirely flute-based control system? Ugh...

The movie opens with an alien “Engineer” preparing to seed a primordial planet - presumably Earth - with life. He accomplishes this by drinking a black goop which causes him to die in agony, disintegrating at the cellular level. It looks cool, but forces you to wonder: Is this really the best means available for this incredibly advanced species to introduce genetic material to a planet? It’s a little like finding out that Prometheus brought fire to humanity by setting himself on fire despite the ready availability of kindling. As with many, many other bizarre moments in this movie, this makes sense at a thematic and allegorical level, but fails at the level of elementary plot logic. This is why doing allegory well is hard: Your story actually has to work at a second level without shattering the viewer’s suspension of disbelief on the first level. Throughout the movie, you get the sense that the authors have decided that if it works symbolically, it doesn’t need to make sense narratively.

We end with the two heading for the homeworld of the creatures who we’ve just learned are determined to immediately kill any human they see.

Edited by DetCord, 30 October 2012 - 11:25 AM.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 06:12 PM

Yep, that about summed it up for me.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:31 PM

He's threatening to do a Blade Runner sequel now too :(

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:25 AM

Started a Bladerunner 2 thread
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Det - if you get to see the BR extras...its worth watching to understand some questions but it opens up new holes also!! I didn't even consider those extra crew with Weyland..LOL...totally missed that one!
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