[Fixxxer]

http://www.pcmag.com...,2404001,00.asp

[Witzbold]

Seeing how Bioware and their star wars MMO is kinda dying, dont see how Bethesda expects to do any better.

[DetCord]

Witzbold, on 04 May 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

Seeing how Bioware and their star wars MMO is kinda dying, dont see how Bethesda expects to do any better.

That was my first and only MMO. I'm not really into the whole WoW, Tera, fantacy genre, sci-fi is my thing and SW:ToR certainly provided that. It was well executed for a MMO, the visuals were excellent (for a MMO), and you can't really beat Bioware where it concerns story and plot. I was really drawn in, big time. That said, I capped at around level 43, logged off one day and never returned. I even joined a guild... ugh.

It's certainly dying a slow death.

The problem with MMO's is that they rarely innovate.

[Witzbold]

Its kinda bad if something as big as Star Wars can fall apart and when you got a dev house like Bioware behind it.

My guess is it will eventually go the F2P route like many other MMOs of recent times. Only one that has really been surviving all this time would be WoW.

At least SW:ToR looks a lot better than the mess that was SW:G dear god that game was broken.

Do hope that they have some sort of strong plan as to what their selling point with the game will be.

[Delta[84]]

I suppose this one will be a pay per month game isn't? Thank God they will still release SP Elder Scrolls.

[Fixxxer]

In no way am I in a position to comment on this, but considering how rough TES games are at release and generally well after, I'm afraid to see what an MMO would look like in terms of gameplay issues and such.

They make great games, but if they crash all the time it makes it hard to keep people playing a game that requires you to move at everyone else's pace.

[galzohar]

Not to mention the balance issues, that will actually matter when you make the game multiplayer. Well, to me they matter in single player, but for many single player is a good enough excuse to forget about balance issues which is the main reason TES games sell despite of imbalance.

[Fixxxer]

If the game is primarily PvE then balance doesn't mean too much.

I really just wanted a TES game with the ability to play with a few friends. An MMO does little to excite me.

[Witzbold]

In regards to the situation with SW:ToR apparently they lost quite a bit of subscribers.

http://www.eurogamer...-since-february

Do think news like that should have Bethesda worried about their own game. Considering number of Starwars fans vs Skyrim fans cant really be matched equally.

[ratoa]

The problem with SW:TOR is that the game is SP game with multiplayer features to make you pay for it monthly, that's what I gather from friends... I'm going to play it soon to see it FOR myself since I'm a fan of the first two.

[N'kEnNy]

Elder scrolls game without mod support? Good luck with that.

-k

[Witzbold]

Dont worry, there will be plenty of HORSE ARMOR to cover that loss, so should be right as rain!

Still think sales wise just making an ES game that had actual co-op in it would do a lot better financially than an MMO which isnt exactly a safe bet these days.

[Fixxxer]

Witzbold, on 07 May 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

Still think sales wise just making an ES game that had actual co-op in it would do a lot better financially than an MMO which isnt exactly a safe bet these days.

My thoughts exactly.

[V2_Bloodline]

[Fixxxer]

For an MMO it looks really good. It's just the whole MMO model that I don't care for. The amount of time required to achieve the end-game content is usually way more than I have at my disposal. I much prefer a game where I can progress at my leisure and I would still love to see Bethesda bring me a coop version for their Elder Scrolls series. I doubt it will happen, but one can only dream.

[DetCord]

Fixxxer, on 09 November 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

For an MMO it looks really good. It's just the whole MMO model that I don't care for. The amount of time required to achieve the end-game content is usually way more than I have at my disposal. I much prefer a game where I can progress at my leisure and I would still love to see Bethesda bring me a coop version for their Elder Scrolls series. I doubt it will happen, but one can only dream.

Have you tried the Skyrim MP Mod yet?

[galzohar]

DetCord, on 09 November 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

Have you tried the Skyrim MP Mod yet?

Is there one that actually works?

[Fixxxer]

DetCord, on 09 November 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

Have you tried the Skyrim MP Mod yet?

I haven't played Skyrim. Oblivion left a bad taste in my mouth and without an coop mode I haven't really been too enthused to purchase Skyrim. Sadly, games just aren't what they used to be anymore to me. I find myself going back and playing older games instead of the newer games. Every now and then a new games comes along and surprises me, but it seems to be rare these days.

[DetCord]

Fixxxer, on 10 November 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

I haven't played Skyrim. Oblivion left a bad taste in my mouth and without an coop mode I haven't really been too enthused to purchase Skyrim. Sadly, games just aren't what they used to be anymore to me. I find myself going back and playing older games instead of the newer games. Every now and then a new games comes along and surprises me, but it seems to be rare these days.

I absolutely hated Oblivion mate but I love Skyrim. If I were you, I'd take a chance on it.

[BOTA:49]

Skryim with mods is AMAZING. The vanilla game is alright, but once you find a set of mods that you like, it's a whole different animal. Turning off the compass, making caves and nights darker, and upping the difficulty makes the game much, much more interesting.

As for TESO, I still think it's terrible. All I want is future versions of Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim/ whatever to have at least 2 player coop, preferably 4. 4 players, each with at least 1 companion, making 8 man teams, would make for a MUCH more fun game than any MMO.